11 Replies Latest reply on Jan 15, 2008 5:32 PM by Matt Lombard

Need help designing bottle

Rick Campbell Jan 11, 2008 7:27 PM

Hello,

I don't know if bottle necessarly needs surfaces, but I know from experience there are some smart fellows in here.

I am trying to design a bottle. I have two sketchs called FRONT & RIGHT. You can see the overall profile from these 2 sketches.

I thought a sweep would work great do to the need geometery, but it fails.

I have a potential loft folder. But, the loft does not duplicate bottle. So if you design looks like this loft when done, it won't work

The other tricky part the the heel of the bottle...

All necessary dimension are in FRONT, RIGHT, & BOTTOM Proflie sketches

Thanks for any help!!

Need help designing bottle

Charles Culp Jan 11, 2008 7:49 PM (in response to Rick Campbell)

Rick,

How is this different than your previous bottle? It looks the same to me, and I think the technique that Mark posted with a boundary surface, instead of the loft, would work great. Just make sure to set your end constraints appropriately, you want them to have a curvature constraint for a smooth edge, and "Default" for a crisp edge.
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  Rick Campbell Jan 11, 2008 7:57 PM (in response to Charles Culp)
  
  You might be correct after taking a look at the other bottle. The heel of the bottle is a little different, but I might be able to work around that. Hmmm, I will have to take a deeper look at this on Monday.
  
  Thanks Charles, some smart people on the Forum
  
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    Jerry Steiger Jan 11, 2008 8:34 PM (in response to Rick Campbell)
    
    Rick,
    
    Have you looked at Ed Eaton's tutorials? http://www.dimontegroup.com/Tu...idWorks_Tutorials.htm
    In Curvy Stuff 201 he uses a complex bottle design, like a detergent bottle. as a sample.
    
    I highly recommend going through all of them in order (101, 102, 201, 301, V and 6) if you are going to be doing this type of work much.
    
    The rest of his tutorials are well worth looking at as well.
    
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      Rick Campbell Jan 14, 2008 10:42 AM (in response to Jerry Steiger)
      
      Hi Jerry,
      
      I will take a look at this and do them later this week, when things slow down. Thanks for the tip! Rick
      
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        Craig Jurs Jan 15, 2008 3:25 AM (in response to Rick Campbell)
        
        Hi Rick,
        
        The biggest thing I see is that you have two planes of symmetry, therefore you really only need to model a quarter of the bottle. I'm not sure exactly what your design intent is, but I gave it a shot with a sweep and surface fill. I know there are at least a few people that like the boundary surface feature, but I can never seem to make it work very well (Due to my own modeling deficiencies I'm sure!).
        
        I modeled in 08'. I hope this isn't a problem for you to open.
        
        Cheers,
        Craig J.
        
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  Rick Campbell Jan 15, 2008 5:22 PM (in response to Charles Culp)
  
  Sorry Charles,
  
  I uploaded the wrong part file. What a ding bat. I was wondering why people were commenting with the old bottle...
  
  Oh, well I figured it out anyways...
  
  Thanks though
  
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Leonardo Sanchez Jan 15, 2008 9:33 AM (in response to Rick Campbell)

Here's another one,

in 2007 - no sweep just fill.
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  Rick Campbell Jan 15, 2008 5:25 PM (in response to Leonardo Sanchez)
  
  I uploaded the wrong bottle... The one everyone is tying to help me with is an old one... But, you did it correct though.
  
  I figured out the one I needed.
  
  Thanks for helping me though! Rick
  
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Craig Jurs Jan 15, 2008 5:09 PM (in response to Rick Campbell)

I should clarify. I used a sweep to define the lower part of the bottle in surface format (I could have gotten away with an surface extrude instead). Like Leonardo I only used one surface fill to define the neck area.
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  Rick Campbell Jan 15, 2008 5:23 PM (in response to Craig Jurs)
  
  It looks good. It is to bad I uploaded the wrong bottle. That one is an old one I struggled with. But you did in they way I needed it though.
  
  Thanks for trying to help me!!
  
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Matt Lombard Jan 15, 2008 5:32 PM (in response to Rick Campbell)
Yeah, like Charles said, I think we've done this one already. Simple bottle, many solutions.

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