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Setup scene and Camera changes when importing model

Question asked by Neil Marten on May 13, 2016
Latest reply on Jun 29, 2016 by Bastian Krueckeberg

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This seems new with visualize and did not happen in previous versions for me. When importing a new model into an existing setup scene, the camera angle & aspect ratio, scene, and back plate all change. As a work around, i have to lock my camera before importing new models and uncheck Environment in the model import dialog box.

I guess my question is, why? Why is this the new default action? Is there any way to stop this other than my work around above? If I forget to do the steps above, I have to spend a couple minutes undoing all the changes. What someone thought might be a big time saver for someone, actually wastes a bunch of my time.

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David Randle May 13, 2016 2:49 PM
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Neil -

It's might be that your user settings may have been returned to their defaults somehow which means that when you import a model, the camera is being imported and used as the default camera (which is default behavior for most CAD formats).

Try unchecking the Camera tab in the Import Dialog when importing a model into your scene.

Are you importing SolidWorks files or another type?
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- Neil Marten @ David Randle on May 17, 2016 10:20 AM
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  Yes, I am importing SolidWorks files. I am looking at the import dialog and there isn't a Camera Tab available. The tabs available are Geometry, Appearances, Environments & Decals.
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  - David Randle @ Neil Marten on May 17, 2016 11:43 AM
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    Neil - Ok, thanks for clarifying. We do not yet import the camera from SolidWorks files so my hunch doesn't apply.
    
    I'm having a hard time thinking about what else could cause this so it may be a good time to reach out to your VAR for support and it will get escalated if need be. If i think of anything i'll report back here.
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Andreas Olofsson May 18, 2016 5:21 AM
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Hi Neil,

I've experienced the same thing. It positions the camera so that the newly imported geometry is within its view.
I've got nothing to add I'm afraid. You just have to try to remember to either lock your active camera or switch to your "free" one before importing.
It would be nice if Visualize remembered your import settings so you wouldn't have to uncheck "environments" every time. If you don't uncheck it, Visualize will set the active camera's aspect ratio to whatever the SW backplate's resolution is.
Quite an annoyance when you forget to do those steps and you have to reload the project to get the camera back the way it was.
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Bastian Krueckeberg May 20, 2016 7:03 AM
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Hi gents,

I am trying to figure out what we can do to improve this annoyance for the upcoming 2016 service pack and would like to have your vote on possible solutions:

Solution 1:
Remember the state of the the Environments (and other off course...) check-box during import. Such that if unchecked once, backplate and hdr environment import is suppressed and camera aspect ratio remains unchanged.

Solution 2:
Never change the active camera but create a second additional camera (possibly automatically switch to that or keep the existing).

Solution 3:
Do both...

I think Solution 3 may be best here. Also, we will have Camera/View import from SOLIDWORKS CAD in that service pack as well, so another "Camera" tab as David mentioned above is going to be available soon.
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- Scott Ellery @ Bastian Krueckeberg on May 20, 2016 10:02 AM
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  I'm all for Solution 3
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- Neil Marten @ Bastian Krueckeberg on May 20, 2016 10:09 AM
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  I agree on solution 3. Doing both would be best.
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- Craig Schultz @ Bastian Krueckeberg on May 20, 2016 10:19 AM
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  #3
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David McNeill Jun 20, 2016 11:24 AM
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Hi
I am a bit late to this thread but I have a similar issue with some materials. If I import a new model into a project the textures within one or two of the materials will change. For instance, it could be a wood that has a grain bump texture but after the import it will have a leather bump texture. It doesn't happen often but when it does it is quite irritating. Sometimes you don't realise it has happened until you start the final render. I am importing SW files with only Geometry active in the Import Settings.
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- Bastian Krueckeberg @ David McNeill on Jun 20, 2016 11:47 AM
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  Hey David,
  
  can this material problem be consistently reproduced (i.e. with certain SolidWorks Appearances)? If so, please share the exact steps and we will try to find a solution!
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  - David McNeill @ Bastian Krueckeberg on Jun 21, 2016 10:37 AM
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    Dear Bastion
    I have found it is repeatable with the attached 'appearance'. I was using it a lot in a recent project so it became obvious the problem related to it in someway. It did occur with one or two other 'appearances' but I can't be sure which ones as I didn't realise it was a bug at the time. The attached 'appearance' has been modified and saved to suit the project I was working on. You will see from the screen dumps that the 'bump' texture changes into something different when a new model is imported into this fresh project. In this case it looks like the leather normal file has been changed to a copy of the 'color' file, which is a tileable image of leather. This isn't quite what happened whilst I was working on the project. During the project the leather normal file was changing to something similar to the fabric normal file!
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    IAG Black Leatherette.svap.zip4.7 MB
    after new model imprted.jpg99.8 KB
    before new model imprted.jpg128.8 KB
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    - Bastian Krueckeberg @ David McNeill on Jun 29, 2016 5:44 AM
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      Hi David, we were able to fix this for the upcoming service pack 2016SP1. Thanks much for your help!
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Bastian Krueckeberg Jun 21, 2016 11:54 AM
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Hi David, thanks for supplying this additional information! I am able to repro the problem. I am going to file a bug and we will work on a fix!
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