15 Replies Latest reply on Aug 18, 2016 10:28 PM by Tom Cote

    SolidWorks 2016 PDM Standard

    Tony Thompson

      I work from my home and am currently using SolidWorks Premium 2015 SP5 and the company I do work for is planning on moving to SW 2016 when SP3 is released and the color icons are added back to the UI.

       

      The company I do work for also has their SolidWorks license using the SolidNetwork License software which was an added purchase for them of over $2,000 dollars but I am the only user and I do not have nor do I want to purchase the SolidNetwork License software which would make no sense since I am the only user at my home.

       

      Based on what I have read about the SolidWorks Standard PDM it requires the SolidNetwork License software and if this is the case the claim that SolidWorks is making that SolidWorks PDM Standard is included with SolidWorks 2016 Professional and Premium is a lie or at the very least misleading.

       

      My hopes was that this isn't the case and that I would be able to VPN into the computer hosting the vault so that I could upload my projects into their vault and that the file references would be maintained.

       

      Currently I have folders that are shared on my computer and then I map them to the same drive letters that they use for their library components and their customer project files so that when I upload them onto the server all of the referenced files will retain their folder paths and this is working well they are able to open my assemblies without having to re-link the referenced files.

       

      How would this work if they are using SolidWorks PDM Standard or SolidWorks PDM Professional?

       

      They are planning on starting with the standard version and if it works out they will move to the Professional version but they want to test the waters before investing in a new server to host the vault on an SQL server and the added licensing cost.

       

      Also even though I work at home and have a standalone SolidWorks license and have no reason to use the SolidNetwork License software will I be forced to use it and have the added expense of not only purchasing it but having to maintain a subscription for it as well as my SolidWorks license?

       

      If this is the case then SolidWorks is screwing all of the users out there that work alone from home and have standalone license and forcing them to purchase software that then do not want or need.

       

      I am growing increasingly concerned with the direction that Dassault is heading and with  the quality of the latest releases. SolidWorks 2012 was rock solid and I rarely had crashes with it and I only used SW 2014 for a couple of months before moving to SW 2015 and I now have several crashes per day. I have a new Dell T5810 workstation with the Nvidia K2200 and 32gb of ram and I also have a Dell M6800 with the Nvidia K5100 and 8gb of ram that I use when I am remote which isn't very often but both are good solid workstations and since moving to SW 2015 it isn't very stable on either and from what I am reading SW 2016 is also still very buggy and people are having a lot of issues.

       

      I NEVER do and upgrade from one version to the next I always do a complete uninstall then a fresh new install to the newer version and I haven't had any issues or errors during the install and I am using newer hardware so I know it is SolidWorks and not my system and I have been doing this for over 25 years so I am familiar with computers and networks and was the IT as well a Engineer at the (2) companies I have worked for most of my career.

       

      I would appreciate any solutions that someone may know about for me to be able to transfer my project files to my customers server without loosing all of the file references if I am not using SolidWorks PDM and do not have a vault on my system.

       

      Thanks

        • Re: SolidWorks 2016 PDM Standard
          Prasad Bhonsule

          Hi Tony, PDM Standard does use the SolidNetwork License software, since it is a new product from Solidworks, it has its own serial number. Since PDM Licenses are floating, the licenses have to be stored on the SolidNetwork License manager software.

           

          You can activate the PDM Standard licenses on the same license manager as your Solidworks licenses. VPN can be used to access a network license when you are not connected to the office network, so you should be able to work from home and access the SolidWorks and PDM licenses through a VPN.

           

          Hope this helps.

           

          Kind regards,

           

          Prasad Bhonsule

            • Re: SolidWorks 2016 PDM Standard
              Tom Cote

              Hi Tony, The SolidNetwork is required to run PDM (Standard or Pro) but SOLIDWORKS does not charge to get this program for the vaulting software it is included.

               

              Your files management methods may need to change some but since all files are contained within the vault vs. a manual filing system this is a good thing.  Figuring out your file migration while maintaining all your file references may take a little thought (with some trial & error) but I do it all the time.  I've yet to hit one that cannot work, just be thorough and you'll get it.

               

              Regards,

              Tom

              CAD / PDM Admin Specialist

                • Re: SolidWorks 2016 PDM Standard
                  Steve Won

                  I have been told that outside contractors cannot access the PDM Standard Vault,  unless they are all under the same PDM Std license umbrella.

                   

                  This means that Tony (and I) cannot benefit from the free PDM Standard,  since we cannot share our clients' PDM Std. Vaults.

                  This result seems contrary to what is being said in the thread above.(?)

                   

                  Note:  I am on SW2015 Standard, and have not yet upgraded to SW2016 Pro/Premium.

                   

                  Regards,

                  Steve

                    • Re: SolidWorks 2016 PDM Standard
                      Tom Cote

                      What it means is that you'd have to use up your PDM Standard license in Tony's vault and you would not be able to have your own vault separate of his.  So when he installs the license manager he'd simply enter both PDM Standard serial numbers (your's and his).  It works fine and I've been told since you can only activate the PDM Standard serial number once and you can choose where and that it does not violate any ULA's.  I've tested this scenario and it works fine.

                        • Re: SolidWorks 2016 PDM Standard
                          Steve Won

                          Thanks for your reply Tom,

                          Can you help inform what would happen if I wished to detach from someone's vault, and begin a work contract with a different customer?  

                          That different customer having their own PDM Standard Vault.

                          Your reply seems to suggest that my PDM Std. license would be permanently linked to the first Vault,  in this case Tony's.

                          Thanks again,

                          Steve

                            • Re: SolidWorks 2016 PDM Standard
                              Tom Cote

                              Hi Steve,

                              I have not tested this but you should be able to have them change their License Manger.

                              The steps should be something like:

                              1. From the SolidNetWork License manager, select manage and return the licenses.

                              2. Change the licnese manager install by going to the Add/Remove programs and remove your serial number out.

                              3. They would then go back to the SolidNetWork License manager, select manage and reactivate the licenses.  YOurs should be removed from the list.

                               

                              Once that is complete your serial number should be free to reactivate elsewhere.  Hope this helps.

                               

                              Regards,

                              ~Tom

                                • Re: SolidWorks 2016 PDM Standard
                                  Steve Won

                                  Thanks Tom,

                                  So it seems that the key is for the Vault owner to purchase SolidNetWork License manager software (per Tony's OP, approx $2000)?

                                   

                                  I'm a bit unsure whether my clients might already have that Network License manager,  since they are a medium sized company and have 6 seats of SW2016Pro, where they are already sharing a PDM-Std Vault amongst their 6 users.   Can they be sharing a Vault amongst 6 users without Already having SolidNetWork License manager software?

                                   

                                  Then, myself being an outside 7th seat of SW2016Pro, would be able to tap into their PDM-Std-Vault, by entering my license number into their License manager, as you had described...

                                   

                                  Thanks again,

                                  Steve

                                    • Re: SolidWorks 2016 PDM Standard
                                      Tom Cote

                                      Hi Steve,

                                       

                                      Both PDM St'd and PDM Pro come with SolidNetWork License Manager, since it is required to run PDM.  From what you've indicated it sounds as though your client purchased the SolidNetWork License Manager and is now managing both their SOLIDWORKS and their PDM St'd licenses.  That would allow your client to have floating licenses for both SOLIDWORKS and PDM.   You should be able to simply add your serial number to their license manager and run.

                                       

                                      There is another way that might be able to setup your environment as well.  Install the license manager and PDM Standard on your machine, activate your PDM license. While you're VPN'd into your client have them add your computer to the license server list.  I have not tested this approach but I would think it could work.

                                       

                                      Either way has a some setup, although not very hard it takes a little understanding of how it all works together.

                                       

                                      Regards,

                                      Tom

                                      CAD / PDM Admin Specialist

                                      www.appliedcadsolutions.com

                                        • Re: SolidWorks 2016 PDM Standard
                                          Steve Won

                                          Thanks again Tom,

                                          I guess there should be no problems if all parties have only SW2016Pro (with free PDM-Std),  since the License Manager is already included with each seat of PDM-Std.

                                           

                                          I will refer my VAR(s) to this thread, since they have advised that not-free-PDM-Pro is required,  in order to share Vault with outside users.

                                           

                                          I believe what they would say is  that the License Manager will not allow "external" PDM-Std serial numbers to be added,  outside of those PDM-Std license that were registered under the original umbrella of users.  

                                          They said something to the effect that if everybody insisted on having only free-PDM-Std,  then I would need to re-register my (sole proprietorship) company name, to be under my Client's (medium size company),  and then redo the SW licenses.

                                          Since that is not feasible, therefore it was recommended we may all need to upgrade to PDM-Pro, which does allow sharing of their Vault with unlimited outside users.

                                           

                                          That convo was over the phone so maybe I am not recalling it exactly...

                                           

                                          Thanks again,

                                          Steve

                              • Re: SolidWorks 2016 PDM Standard
                                Keith Howell

                                Hi Tom,

                                 

                                We have recently just switched over to the Solidworks Standard PDM, and I am migrating our files over.

                                 

                                My question is this: When I have the assemblies up and running in the PDM software with all the references good, I was under the impression that I could rename a file and it would still keep its reference in the assembly. However, up to this point, when I rename a file in the PDM Vault, it breaks the reference, and I have to browse for it and then select the file I have renamed. Am I missing a step that is necessary for the PDM software to keep the link even when I rename a file ( I was also told by our retailer that even moving files wouldn't break references in Assemblies that are inside the PDM)

                                 

                                Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

                                 

                                Lewis Vandervalk

                                CAD user/File management