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Break View: Is there a way to break a view diagonally?

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Does any one know if it is possible to break a view diagonally (at an angle)? I have attached an example of my dilemma. I would like to break my stair stringer design on my 2D drawing in a diagonal perpendicular to the stringer. The 2D drawing function only allows horizontal or vertical. I can use alternate position however that makes the stringer lay flat and that not standard. My objective is to keep the view parametric as well. I called my subscription provider, and the Tech who I believe is good, said there isn't a way. However, I watched a You tube Tutorial from Javelin entitled "Tech Tip: SOLIDWORKS 2015 Tutorial - Assembly Break Views", and it shows a model view being broken in an assembly (model break view). I am hopeful, and this is part of my question,- can a broken view created in a assembly as a configuration be also used in the 2D drawing views for a drawing? It seems like it would? Does anyone know for sure?

Thank you in advance for any assistance in this matter!

John Babay Feb 18, 2016 3:32 PM

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Looks like the way to go Dennis... really appreciate your time in sending the screenshot.

Thx!

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Bjorn Hulman Feb 18, 2016 11:30 AM
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Hi John,
I'm on SW2014, and there is an option for an auxiliary break, which lets you put the break on any angle. You could also RMB the view and rotate it so it's either horizontal or vertical and add vertical or horizontal break.
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- John Babay @ Bjorn Hulman on Feb 18, 2016 12:32 PM
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  Hello Bjorn,
  
  The auxiliary break you mentioned is actually a section view function where you can section at different angles but that is not what I mean.
  
  I need to break the view, kind of like if you had a 1000 ft ladder and you had to show features at each end of the ladder to dimension or whatever, but you did not need to show the whole length of the ladder (i.e. the middle portion), especially because, for scale reasons, you can not show the entire the whole length of the ladder if you want it to fit on the paper and still see significant features at each end. I need to have the model stay in it's angular form when it is broke per standard displays policies.
  
  But thank you for your ideas though.
  
  - John
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  - Bjorn Hulman @ John Babay on Feb 19, 2016 3:48 AM
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    I knew there was something odd when I was playing round with it! Apologies.
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Kevin Chandler Feb 18, 2016 12:45 PM
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Hello,

I don't believe you can align the part edges of a broken iso view. There are no options that I know of to do so.
You could cobble together multiple cropped views, align them using drawing sketch lines on a layer that can be separately hidden (after alignment).
Broken dims won't be valid for this approach.

As for "model break view", you need MBD Std, which I don't have so I can't help you there.

Cheers,

Kevin
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- John Babay @ Kevin Chandler on Feb 18, 2016 3:22 PM
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  Thank you Kevin!
  I will quite possibly upgrade to 2016 for the ability to break the stringers in the front view as shown. Just seems like that would be something so easy with all the capabilities SW has. Anyway thanks for your input - greatly appreciated. I love how this forum works. What a tool!
  
  Regards,
  John
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Dennis Bacon Feb 18, 2016 1:29 PM
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I knew I had used this before but it looks like Kevin is correct. In 2015 you need MBD in order to use the model break feature. It is available to use in 2016 without having MBD. I would think you can make a configuration and cutout the section you don't want then use that in your drawing.
The screenshot is using 2016 without MBD. Of course you can break out as much as you want and use the config in your drawing.
Edit:... There are variations you can use alter what the break looks like.
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- John Babay @ Dennis Bacon on Feb 18, 2016 3:32 PM
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  Looks like the way to go Dennis... really appreciate your time in sending the screenshot.
  Thx!
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- Chris Oxford @ Dennis Bacon on Feb 18, 2016 4:22 PM
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  Why in [expletive] is Model Break View not available in 2015 Premium?
  
  Why can't I control drawing breaks to align with model features? Why can't I exclude features from breaks? (say I have a 5 pronged fork, and I only need to break the middle prong, as it's longer than the others and won't fit on the sheet, and breaking the entire view eliminates parts of the remaining forks I need to keep visible in order to define/show end features).
  
  I've been using SW since 1997, some things never change. End users are still alpha testers, after 2 decades. Bugs from 2003 still floating around.
  
  Sorry to digress, just a bit frustrated, made the upgrade from 2012 to 2015 last week, company will never upgrade to latest version, need best stability we can get. And I turned 50 this month, got my grumpy old man card in the mail...
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Greg Hynd Feb 19, 2016 4:50 AM
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Your easiest way to do this in your drawing is to place two breaks on the same view, one vertical and one horizontal. You will need to drag the breaks around a bit so they line up correctly. I do this all the time for stair stringers.
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- Bjorn Hulman @ Greg Hynd on Feb 19, 2016 4:57 AM
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  I still think rotating the view would be easiest.
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  - Greg Hynd @ Bjorn Hulman on Feb 19, 2016 5:02 AM
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    Bjorn,
    
    Depends what you want your end result to be I guess, our guys prefer the way I do it because they can tell its the stair stringer.
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    - Bjorn Hulman @ Greg Hynd on Feb 19, 2016 5:05 AM
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      Fair enough. I'd just add that as the description in the title block.
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- John Babay @ Greg Hynd on Feb 19, 2016 3:44 PM
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  Wow...would have never thought of that in a million years - sweet!
  Thank you!
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