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Can SolidWorks show me the entities that are not defined in a sketch?

Question asked by Jesús Palma Bautista on Dec 18, 2015
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Hi,

First of all sorry for my English.

I have a question about if SolidWorks can show me the points, lines, etc. That aren't defined. I want all the sketches "fully defined" but sometimes in a rare sketch I have points that if I don't have so much attention I can't see. I'm looking for some similiar tool like in CATIA "Sketch Solving Status", in SolidWorks we have "show/hide relations" but I'm looking for some tool to see the entities that have no relation and make the sketch under defined.

Thanks in advance.

Scott Harvey Dec 21, 2015 8:53 AM

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Mr. Palma,

I suggest using the repair sketch as it will give you a magnifying glass on some problems. It will get rid of lines on top of lines as well as show you open gaps and short lines. These are the rookie mistakes you will get over as your SolidWorks' Skills increase in efficiency.

If you use the repair sketch and you're still under defined, then use the "Fully Defined Sketch" feature with Ordinate dimensions. 90% of my models use baseline dimensions so the ordinate will clash to be able to see easier. If my model has ordinate dimensions then I will use a different reference to be able to see easier. Basically you zoom in to the area where the ordinate dimension is attached, delete the ordinate dimension, and put in your intent. See last 3 pictures.

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Jeff Mirisola Dec 19, 2015 9:47 AM

Undefined sketch entities are blue, does that not help?

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Jesús Palma Bautista @ Jeff Mirisola on Dec 21, 2015 7:44 AM

Hi, I know that, I'm looking for something more advanced.

Thanks

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Mike Pogue Dec 19, 2015 4:59 PM

You English is excellent. And Jeff Mirisola has the correct answer.

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Jesús Palma Bautista @ Mike Pogue on Dec 21, 2015 7:44 AM

Thanks, I'm looking for something more advanced.

I'll post a picture at the end.

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Bevin Pettitt Dec 19, 2015 8:31 PM

Jesus,

Yes the black lines (in Sketch) tell you the sketch is defined. To achieve that, all the dimensions/relations must fix the sketch to a location relative to the Origin.

For example, you can draw a rectangle with dimensions but it will remain blue until you provide dimensions from the Origin to one horizontal line and one vertical line. Only then will it be fully defined.

Does this provide the answer you are looking for, or are you talking about a specific sketch not being suitable for extrusion or other operation?

Bevin

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Another way to determine what part of the sketch is not defined is to select and hold a corner or line and try to drag it. You will then see which parts are anchored and which are not.

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Jesús Palma Bautista @ Bevin Pettitt on Dec 21, 2015 7:44 AM

Thank you Bevin, is the perfect answer in SolidWorks. I know that but I'm lookin for something advanced.

I'll post a picture at the end to show you what I'm looking for.

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Kevin Chandler Dec 20, 2015 10:02 AM

Hello,

Perhaps SketchXpert will be able to do what you're looking to do, even though it's meant for over-defined sketches.

I'm not at SW at the moment, but you can also try Document Properties>Model Display to see if there are color choice settings for over and under-defined sketch entities.

Cheers,

Kevin

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Jesús Palma Bautista @ Kevin Chandler on Dec 21, 2015 7:44 AM

Thank you Kevin, I'm not looking for over-defined sketches.

To change colors is on Tools-System Options-Color.

I'm looking for a tool like in CATIA, "Sketch Solving Status" show me what are not defined.

In the end theres is an easy example that is not defined cause a little line in the lower right corner but sometimes there gonna be a point or something else that is difficult to see. I use to see lot of sketches I don't have the problem I just follow the same system that Bevin Pettitt.

I'm only looking for a tool that avoid me to look for blue entities (sometimes a simple point) and make me work easier. I think this tool doesn't exist in SolidWorks but I prefer to ask for it

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Billel Bouam Dec 21, 2015 7:44 AM

Hello

SW give you information from the colors, Blue ; blqck or Yelloz + and the degree of freedom of the comic geometry

as you can read in the status bar information about the status of your essquisse,

you can also use the option to display/delete relation

for more information u can read this :

2011 SOLIDWORKS Help - Sketch Geometry Status

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Scott Harvey Dec 21, 2015 8:53 AM

Mr. Palma,

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Jesús Palma Bautista @ Scott Harvey on Dec 21, 2015 9:54 AM

Thank you Mr Harvey, I have seen this tool (repair sketch) but I rarely have used it. Now I use it carefully and I can see what I was asking for. Is not like in CATIA but is the best that I think I can find in SolidWorks.

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Jeff Mirisola Dec 19, 2015 9:47 AM
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Undefined sketch entities are blue, does that not help?
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- Jesús Palma Bautista @ Jeff Mirisola on Dec 21, 2015 7:44 AM
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  Hi, I know that, I'm looking for something more advanced.
  
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Mike Pogue Dec 19, 2015 4:59 PM
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You English is excellent. And Jeff Mirisola has the correct answer.
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- Jesús Palma Bautista @ Mike Pogue on Dec 21, 2015 7:44 AM
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  Thanks, I'm looking for something more advanced.
  
  I'll post a picture at the end.
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Bevin Pettitt Dec 19, 2015 8:31 PM
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Jesus,
Yes the black lines (in Sketch) tell you the sketch is defined. To achieve that, all the dimensions/relations must fix the sketch to a location relative to the Origin.
For example, you can draw a rectangle with dimensions but it will remain blue until you provide dimensions from the Origin to one horizontal line and one vertical line. Only then will it be fully defined.

Does this provide the answer you are looking for, or are you talking about a specific sketch not being suitable for extrusion or other operation?
Bevin

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Another way to determine what part of the sketch is not defined is to select and hold a corner or line and try to drag it. You will then see which parts are anchored and which are not.
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- Jesús Palma Bautista @ Bevin Pettitt on Dec 21, 2015 7:44 AM
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  Thank you Bevin, is the perfect answer in SolidWorks. I know that but I'm lookin for something advanced.
  
  I'll post a picture at the end to show you what I'm looking for.
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Kevin Chandler Dec 20, 2015 10:02 AM
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Hello,

Perhaps SketchXpert will be able to do what you're looking to do, even though it's meant for over-defined sketches.

I'm not at SW at the moment, but you can also try Document Properties>Model Display to see if there are color choice settings for over and under-defined sketch entities.

Cheers,

Kevin
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- Jesús Palma Bautista @ Kevin Chandler on Dec 21, 2015 7:44 AM
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  Thank you Kevin, I'm not looking for over-defined sketches.
  
  To change colors is on Tools-System Options-Color.
  
  I'm looking for a tool like in CATIA, "Sketch Solving Status" show me what are not defined.
  
  In the end theres is an easy example that is not defined cause a little line in the lower right corner but sometimes there gonna be a point or something else that is difficult to see. I use to see lot of sketches I don't have the problem I just follow the same system that Bevin Pettitt.
  
  I'm only looking for a tool that avoid me to look for blue entities (sometimes a simple point) and make me work easier. I think this tool doesn't exist in SolidWorks but I prefer to ask for it
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Billel Bouam Dec 21, 2015 7:44 AM
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Hello
SW give you information from the colors, Blue ; blqck or Yelloz + and the degree of freedom of the comic geometry
as you can read in the status bar information about the status of your essquisse,
you can also use the option to display/delete relation
for more information u can read this :
2011 SOLIDWORKS Help - Sketch Geometry Status
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Scott Harvey Dec 21, 2015 8:53 AM
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Mr. Palma,

I suggest using the repair sketch as it will give you a magnifying glass on some problems. It will get rid of lines on top of lines as well as show you open gaps and short lines. These are the rookie mistakes you will get over as your SolidWorks' Skills increase in efficiency.

If you use the repair sketch and you're still under defined, then use the "Fully Defined Sketch" feature with Ordinate dimensions. 90% of my models use baseline dimensions so the ordinate will clash to be able to see easier. If my model has ordinate dimensions then I will use a different reference to be able to see easier. Basically you zoom in to the area where the ordinate dimension is attached, delete the ordinate dimension, and put in your intent. See last 3 pictures.
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- Jesús Palma Bautista @ Scott Harvey on Dec 21, 2015 9:54 AM
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  Thank you Mr Harvey, I have seen this tool (repair sketch) but I rarely have used it. Now I use it carefully and I can see what I was asking for. Is not like in CATIA but is the best that I think I can find in SolidWorks.
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