14 Replies Latest reply on Jan 16, 2019 3:50 PM by Tom Strohscher

modified toolbox parts don't update in assembly in S 2016

Mark Stegall Dec 3, 2015 3:37 AM

I updated my SW toolbox with part numbers and descriptions using the export/import function. The toolbox now shows the information. When go I to an assembly drawing with those screws it doesn't show the part number or the description. I tried rebuild. Is there a trick to updating toolbox parts in the assembly drawing ? Right now the only way the updated information shows up is if I delete the existing screw and insert a new one.

Re: modified toolbox parts don't update in assembly in S 2016

Jody Stiles Dec 3, 2015 10:07 AM (in response to Mark Stegall)

Hi Mark,

You can get the updates to come through by editing the Toolbox and clicking OK on the PropertyManager. RMB on the Toolbox part > Edit Toolbox Component > OK on PM. It's a terrible workflow but it's there for various reasons. We are looking at improving the workflow but for now it's a very manual process.

Jody
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  Deepak Gupta Dec 3, 2015 10:31 AM (in response to Jody Stiles)
  
  Jody, just to mention the workflow you've mentioned doesn't work all the time. I recently worked on a project where it failed miserably and for the same reason I didn't replied to Mark stating that workflow.
  
  Glad you raised it up and I can add my concern with that workflow.
  
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    Jody Stiles Dec 3, 2015 10:36 AM (in response to Deepak Gupta)
    
    Hi Deepak,
    
    What wasn't working for you? There is a logic issue we've found where if you add a new custom property that changes the configuration name, we make it look like we are applying the default selection for the custom property but we really aren't and we aren't rebuilding the configuration name string so you basically see no changes on edit > OK. Is there something else you've run across?
    
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      Deepak Gupta Dec 3, 2015 10:46 AM (in response to Jody Stiles)
      
      I had to update/change the description properties in the database. The import/export function worked great for that. And when I used the above workflow to update that property for the fasteners already added in the assemblies, it would fail 50-60% and then I had to add the same property on that pop up window.
      
      The files/data are confidential so I'm not able to share them.
      
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        Jody Stiles Dec 3, 2015 11:23 AM (in response to Deepak Gupta)
        
        How would it fail? Would it just not read the data from Toolbox Settings or not apply the updates on OK from the PM or something else?
        
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        Deepak Gupta Dec 3, 2015 11:53 AM (in response to Jody Stiles)
        
        Jody Stiles wrote:
        
        it just not read the data from Toolbox Settings or not apply the updates on OK from the PM
        Both of these.
        
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        Jody Stiles Dec 3, 2015 11:58 AM (in response to Deepak Gupta)
        
        Okay, thank you for the feedback.
        
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        Re: modified toolbox parts don't update in assembly in S 2016
        
        Mark Stegall Dec 3, 2015 3:25 PM (in response to Jody Stiles)
        
        Thank you for the response. What Deepak is describing appears to be what I am also seeing. I do the workflow process just like you described in the initial response. In the SLDASM I see the properties for the toolbox part has the updated description. When I look at the BOM in the assembly drawing for that assembly it doesn't use the part no or description from the toolbox. If I delete the original object and add it back into the SLDASM it then it updates and show up correctly in the BOM. I don't think I should have to do that to update references to the toolbox so they show up correctly in the BOM. I will call my VAR and see if a ticket can be created for this.
        
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        Jody Stiles Dec 4, 2015 9:50 AM (in response to Mark Stegall)
        
        Hi Mark,
        
        I'm sorry to see you are experiencing the same issue Deepak noted. I looked through our database and can't find an existing bug covering this issue so please do have your VAR create one. We do have a couple of enhancement requests related to updating Toolbox components that you might want to vote for to make the whole process easier.
        
        SPR 737104: Toolbox component configuration custom properties should update when configuration ( component ) is rebuilt
        SPR 650205: Add ability to Edit Toolbox Definition of a sub-assembly (in-context) component while in a top level assembly
        
        Jody
        
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        Re: modified toolbox parts don't update in assembly in S 2016
        
        Deepak Gupta Dec 4, 2015 9:53 AM (in response to Jody Stiles)
        
        Jody Stiles wrote:
        
        I looked through our database and can't find an existing bug covering this issue
        One of the main reason for this could be that very less people know about that workflow i.e. using edit toolbox component option to get/update data from the database
        
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        Mark Stegall Dec 4, 2015 12:42 PM (in response to Jody Stiles)
        
        Thank you for the SPR links for the enhancements requests.
        
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        Re: modified toolbox parts don't update in assembly in S 2016
        
        Steven Dod Dec 5, 2015 10:02 AM (in response to Mark Stegall)
        
        This is the same behavior for us as well. I have found that you can update the information for the hardware without deleting and replacing most of the time. If you use the "Update Toolbox Component" option and then change one of the values (i.e. length or size) it will update the part information. Perform the "Update Toolbox Component" once more to set it back to the correct size and it should be working then. Hope this helps but I have found it will still fail every once in a while.
        
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Re: modified toolbox parts don't update in assembly in S 2016

Bob Tosi Jan 17, 2018 3:17 PM (in response to Mark Stegall)

I know this is an old post, but what is the correct way to update/reload the toolbox after adding new hardware. I have a stand-alone system with the toolbox loaded on it, no one else has access to the toolbox. I added a few different lengths to A SHCS and the only way I could get them to reload was close out of SW and then restart. Trying the RMB method did not and has never worked for me. Any other ideas?
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  Tom Strohscher Jan 16, 2019 3:50 PM (in response to Bob Tosi)
  
  I'm using 2017 and have the same issue. Is there a solution?
  I'm also using PDM Pro.
  
  I've gone through thousands of fasteners putting on proper descriptions and part numbers but I have no idea how to get the fastener to regenerate.
  
  I hate to delete them from the copied parts folder hoping they rebuild.
  
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