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Question asked by Florimond Laporte on Sep 30, 2015
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Hi,

How are you guys managing drawing where you have parts where you do not know in advance which one will be installed?

For exemple, shims.

We have an assembly drawing in which we must install shims. We buy the shims in different thicknesses and each thickness get a part number (MEC-1602-1, MEC-1602-2, etc).

Currently I write MEC-1602-X in the assembly Parts List with a note saying "Install shim as required" but I do not feel this is an elegant solution.

Would you have better solutions that you apply in your business?

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Flo

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Steve Rauenbuehler Sep 30, 2015 9:50 AM

Flo -

I have a similar situation with rivets, and handle it this way:

A complete part number for a typical aircraft rivet might be MS20470AD4-5 - the dash number indicating the rivet length. But I don't like to dictate to the aircraft mechanic what length to use, I feel he is the best judge to determine that to get the desired driven head diameter and thickness. So, what I do is call out the basic rivet part number that specifies the diameter, in this case MS20470AD4, on the drawing and the BOM, and then in the drawing NOTES, I have a callout "Install rivets per NASM47196. Fastener length to be determined at installation."

Elegant? Not in my vocabulary. But ya do whatcha gotta do....

Steve R.

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Deepak Gupta Sep 30, 2015 10:25 AM

The purpose of shims is for adjustment. So it would be hard to predict as what thickness would be required to fit into the place. One way would be to use smaller thickness shim (all of them of same thickness) and put a note for the quantity; use as required OR something similar. But other than this I don't think there is any better way to handle them. So your method is OK too.

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Glenn Schroeder Sep 30, 2015 10:30 AM

I admire your desire to improve your drawings, but I don't think there is a better way than what you're doing now.

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Florimond Laporte Sep 30, 2015 2:23 PM

Thank you Gentlemen!

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Steve Rauenbuehler Sep 30, 2015 9:50 AM
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Flo -

I have a similar situation with rivets, and handle it this way:

A complete part number for a typical aircraft rivet might be MS20470AD4-5 - the dash number indicating the rivet length. But I don't like to dictate to the aircraft mechanic what length to use, I feel he is the best judge to determine that to get the desired driven head diameter and thickness. So, what I do is call out the basic rivet part number that specifies the diameter, in this case MS20470AD4, on the drawing and the BOM, and then in the drawing NOTES, I have a callout "Install rivets per NASM47196. Fastener length to be determined at installation."

Elegant? Not in my vocabulary. But ya do whatcha gotta do....

Steve R.
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Deepak Gupta Sep 30, 2015 10:25 AM
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The purpose of shims is for adjustment. So it would be hard to predict as what thickness would be required to fit into the place. One way would be to use smaller thickness shim (all of them of same thickness) and put a note for the quantity; use as required OR something similar. But other than this I don't think there is any better way to handle them. So your method is OK too.
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Glenn Schroeder Sep 30, 2015 10:30 AM
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I admire your desire to improve your drawings, but I don't think there is a better way than what you're doing now.
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Florimond Laporte Sep 30, 2015 2:23 PM
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Thank you Gentlemen!
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