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Question asked by Jim Healy on Sep 28, 2015
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I need to make sample trays for injection molding and I'm missing a key to the puzzle.

I've talked to my VAR, but they can't solve that .

I'm making five different trays. The trays are made from 1/2 inch thick Delrin and will have 64 machined pockets that are .375 deep. the different trays will hold different sized parts. I was hoping to make one tray and use it as a template.

May problem is that I can't lock the Sketch Text Entity into the center of the pocket.

Any ideas?

Attacked is a current design. SolidWorks 2015

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John Stoltzfus Sep 29, 2015 6:40 AM

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The only way to do this is to set every letter with relationships to the small point in front of the letter.

Below is what I would do, time consuming yeah, but changing sizes with your trays the letters should stay centered. First you need to create two equal centerlines from the edge of the pocket, either horizontal or vertical, I did it hor. see the yellow highlighted line, then create a small crosshair or something that you can visually see it's centered. Then add additional line or lines to the crosshair and the point, add some dimensions and your done. The only thing is when you change the font size you would need to recenter the letters. The point is where you need to lock it in with the 2 equal center lines, which I circled in the 17 pocket...

You can also run another construction line horizontal and make every dot coincident with that line, that way all your letters are straight across as well

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Ingvar Magnusson Sep 28, 2015 4:36 PM

What do you say about this, see image.

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Tom Dirriwachter @ Ingvar Magnusson on Sep 29, 2015 12:08 AM

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Seriously, this is a missing feature.

However, you might be able to do this with some references and relations.

If you have a solid text somewhere as a reference, you can use a midplane datum plane that can give you back the offset for the text. Use that in your sketch to locate the text centered,

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John Stoltzfus Sep 29, 2015 6:40 AM

The only way to do this is to set every letter with relationships to the small point in front of the letter.

You can also run another construction line horizontal and make every dot coincident with that line, that way all your letters are straight across as well

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Krzysztof Wojcik Sep 29, 2015 8:31 AM

You can try to make a horizontal line in the middle of pocked, then make an offset line with half of font height. Then in sketch text options choose this offset line and make tekst center alligned. Repeat on each pocket. For font height you can use units instead points then it will be easier to divide it by 2.

In your case 0.26in for font and 0.13 for offset.

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You don't need to repeat offset on each pocket, just on first in row. Rest of construction lines can be done as on screenshot.

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John Stoltzfus @ Krzysztof Wojcik on Sep 29, 2015 8:34 AM

He would need to do the same for left - right ?? no...In other words he would need a vertical line as well.

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Krzysztof Wojcik @ John Stoltzfus on Sep 29, 2015 8:40 AM

Why vertical? I have just checked and resized pockets, Tekst stays in center as it should.

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John Stoltzfus @ Krzysztof Wojcik on Sep 29, 2015 9:17 AM

It may be just me - but I would lock everyone down (text), as I have seen SW do some weird stuff over the years, I guess for me, I wouldn't trust it otherwise. I still wouldn't change my initial reply, more work, but doing it the way I showed means, I don't need to worry something will go bunkers....

Jim can do what he wants, we gave him suggestions, so whatever he is comfortable with.......

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Krzysztof Wojcik @ John Stoltzfus on Sep 29, 2015 9:05 AM

Hmmm, it's probably true Unconstrained sketches may be dangerous. Last thing to do is to merge this smal dot (text) with midpoint on offset line. It will make sketch fully defined

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Jim Healy Sep 29, 2015 9:02 AM

Thanks for all the help. I'll try them all later in the day.

Right now I'm working on the other 6 balls that I'm juggling.

Jim Healy

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Ingvar Magnusson Sep 28, 2015 4:36 PM
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What do you say about this, see image.
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- Tom Dirriwachter @ Ingvar Magnusson on Sep 29, 2015 12:08 AM
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  PTC Creo
  
  Seriously, this is a missing feature.
  
  However, you might be able to do this with some references and relations.
  
  If you have a solid text somewhere as a reference, you can use a midplane datum plane that can give you back the offset for the text. Use that in your sketch to locate the text centered,
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John Stoltzfus Sep 29, 2015 6:40 AM
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The only way to do this is to set every letter with relationships to the small point in front of the letter.

Below is what I would do, time consuming yeah, but changing sizes with your trays the letters should stay centered. First you need to create two equal centerlines from the edge of the pocket, either horizontal or vertical, I did it hor. see the yellow highlighted line, then create a small crosshair or something that you can visually see it's centered. Then add additional line or lines to the crosshair and the point, add some dimensions and your done. The only thing is when you change the font size you would need to recenter the letters. The point is where you need to lock it in with the 2 equal center lines, which I circled in the 17 pocket...

You can also run another construction line horizontal and make every dot coincident with that line, that way all your letters are straight across as well
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Krzysztof Wojcik Sep 29, 2015 8:31 AM
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You can try to make a horizontal line in the middle of pocked, then make an offset line with half of font height. Then in sketch text options choose this offset line and make tekst center alligned. Repeat on each pocket. For font height you can use units instead points then it will be easier to divide it by 2.
In your case 0.26in for font and 0.13 for offset.

EDIT:
You don't need to repeat offset on each pocket, just on first in row. Rest of construction lines can be done as on screenshot.
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- John Stoltzfus @ Krzysztof Wojcik on Sep 29, 2015 8:34 AM
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  He would need to do the same for left - right ?? no...In other words he would need a vertical line as well.
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  - Krzysztof Wojcik @ John Stoltzfus on Sep 29, 2015 8:40 AM
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    Why vertical? I have just checked and resized pockets, Tekst stays in center as it should.
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    - John Stoltzfus @ Krzysztof Wojcik on Sep 29, 2015 9:17 AM
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      It may be just me - but I would lock everyone down (text), as I have seen SW do some weird stuff over the years, I guess for me, I wouldn't trust it otherwise. I still wouldn't change my initial reply, more work, but doing it the way I showed means, I don't need to worry something will go bunkers....
      
      Jim can do what he wants, we gave him suggestions, so whatever he is comfortable with.......
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      - Krzysztof Wojcik @ John Stoltzfus on Sep 29, 2015 9:05 AM
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        Hmmm, it's probably true Unconstrained sketches may be dangerous. Last thing to do is to merge this smal dot (text) with midpoint on offset line. It will make sketch fully defined
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Jim Healy Sep 29, 2015 9:02 AM
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Thanks for all the help. I'll try them all later in the day.

Right now I'm working on the other 6 balls that I'm juggling.

Jim Healy
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