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i know i shouldn't hijack this thread. but rather a discussion, i was hoping someone would know about the slow-rebuiling time in assemblies?
In the bottom left hand corner - when using solidworks 2014 -
Text appears when moving a part in an assembly: Transferring model information to photoview 360
then immediately afterwards: Rendering scene in Photoview 360
Dont know how to turn this off, couldnt find an option within photoview 360.
What used to take a second rebuilding now takes a couple more, in my case 5 seconds, thats 5 seconds everytime it needs to rebuild the scene in the assembly.. wtf?
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Turn off photoview in the addins section under tools. Problem solved. As far as SW 2014 it is definately a step in the right direction. No complaints here.
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Well.. that was easy, i didnt even notice until now, it seems ive had it always on in 2013 though.
Cheers Rob!
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I have been using it for four hours now and even though the "bugs and we can't be bothered to fix them" are still there four years later, it runs very fast compared to 2013.
Takes a bit of getting used to the new fonts.
From 2011 I would def upgrade, that was one of the worse releases ever!
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We did not upgrade to 2014 and 2013 because of the font
problems on high resolution monitors at 2560x1440.
We must use 150% scaling to prevent from fatigue of eyes
because the most used fonts get too small in that case.
SW2014 is worse than 2013. Solidworks says they
have improved things but the opposite is true.
There are huge vertical distances between the fonts in SW2014
causing Scrollworks and the textsize in the dimension edit
menu and the property manager is 30% smaller than
in SW2013 with no way to adjust that.
The size of the fonts are different everywhere and the most
used fonts are the hardes to read as these are the smallest.
Solidworks should just use one font size in the UI but this
seems to get worse every release. I just don't understand
why they can't get this right.
SW2005 and SW2010 did not have any font problems at all.
If you are using a low resolution screen or have (still) very
good eyes then you are fine. But having too small fonts
wil cause fatigue and troubles for your eyes on the long term,
you can read many medical reports about that. So save
your eyes if they are still good and be carefull about using
too small fonts working 8 hours a day!
If you need 150% windows scaling you will see
a lot of problems because Solidworks is not Windows compliant.
I have explained these problems and which monitor is
the best for you eyes in these links.
Solid Edge does not have these problems, they have a setting
something like UI 2X and then all UI items are twice as big
with no extreme different fonts all over the place. You can
use 200% scaling in Solid Edge with no problems. Try to
do that in Solidworks...
Of course that would only be necessary on a 14" 2560x1440
notebook.
We also have this problem
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Is it just the assemblies I've been working on or has the save time increased. Saving two medium sized assemblies and four drawings associated with them and so fat I am on 18 minutes save time, photo view is off
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Hi Andi,
In early November I had asked for the upgrade from the 2011 we were running on the two seats we have and also for a new computer if we could afford it.
Christmas came early and I upgraded to 2014 on the 9th of December on my new computer.
As you say, the interface has changed a little but there are several differences between 2011 and 2014 both in what you see by way of the actual functions and in what is unseen in the way the program runs on your computer. I did start to put together a justification for my IT guy to show the financial director for the upgrade. Have a word with your reseller, they should be able to help you reach a decision. I did find out things like there are 200 or so differences between releases. 600 for me - and you if you go for it. From what I understand the new computer has no massive effect on the speed at which the normal program runs but I would certainly say that there is a large difference in the time taken in the day to day use. Less time is taken to open and save files for one thing, drawing generation is easier and more flexible, the command prompt is useful for finding the commands you know but can't find etc etc..
I am very happy with 2014 Sp1 and am glad I've had the upgrade.
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I only got to use it for 4 hours but some things were quite improved but I was getting some odd bugs. If you mirred a feature or part the original one would not show just the mirrored one, also when you added relations to curves the feature tree and tool info on the left would be scrambled couldnt read it. very odd. I am forced to upgrade since almost all the companies I work for run 2014 and its getting a hassel with parasolidworks back and forth.
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What do you mean by scrambled.
Do you mean like this?
Or does it look like the attached picture.
In SW2013 150% scaling did not give visability problems in the
tree but in SW2014 125% already gives visability problems in the tree.
In SW2013 and SW2014 the dimension edit menu in parts/assemblies gets corrupt
at 150% scaling. After 1 year nothing has been fixed.
Font problems get worse every release and that has not changed in SW2014
Autodesk has done everything that Solidworks promised back in 2010
http://www.deskeng.com/virtual_desktop/?p=1119
Fusion 360 has cloud and direct modeling. It can
be used as an extension to Autodesk Inventor.
Unfortunately there is few cad evolution at Solidworks but I would be
happy if they only can show a font visable and not too small on a
modern high resolution monitor but this seems to be very difficult and
takes more than a year.
They call it "3D Experience"
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You know when you select two sketch entities and ad relations you get little tab on main view and on the left side you get the same options, well in the system i used the left side was scrambeled as when you get bad reception on tv that same thing the boxes fonts icons were smudged. Also there were other bugs in certain features if you did a sweep you got no options in the options tab it was blank. Maybe the insall in the comupter i used was corrupted. I have been using SW 2011 since 2011 never had any issues or bugs like this. There are few in certain situation but in tools and interface and font size and options everything has been flawless.
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Did it look like the pictures of Ben Daniels in this thread:
What Windows scaling did you use, 100%, 125% or more?
What monitor resolution?
Did you already check videodrivers?
Did you try to test with Software OpenGL setting and see if
the problem goes away?
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Andi,
Did you update your video card drivers when you installed SW2014?
Be sure to do that if you have not yet. That is a must do when installing a new version of SW.
http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/videocardtesting.html
Cheers,
Anna
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I work as indipendent contractor but I worked on location for a few hours one day and I got to use SW 2014. by my guess they just had a basic computer with SW 2014 I dont think the computer was properly set up or had the necessary hardware graphic card to run SW. Yes Richard the scrambeled optios tabe looked exactly like the one on the thread. It wasnt my computer just found it odd
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These are the new font problems since SW2014.
In SW2013 this was still Oke.
It has nothing to do with hardware, only the Windows
scaling setting does trigger the problems. This will
be the case on high resolution monitors in general.
But Windows scaling should not show corrupt fonts like
Solidworks does. Solidworks is not Windows compliant.
You are correct about SW2011, at that time everything
was still fine with fonts.
I have open SPR numbers of one year old, nothing has
been fixed and it got much worse since SW2014 although
Solidworks thinks that it has improved.
I don't understand why they can't fix these basic problems
that were Oke for 15 years. With Solidworks you have to
downgrade instead of upgrade to support a modern high
resolution monitor.
If you set Windows scaling to 150% you will see that Solidworks
2014 uses many diffent font heights and big vertical font
distances that cause a lot of Scrollworks. Depending on the
new SW2014 customize setting the trees, menus, right mouse
buttons menus get twice longer as necessary causing scrolling.
The text in the dimension edit menu and the property managers
in SW2014 is 30% smaller when compared to SW2013.
I already found these texts far too small in SW2013. I thought it
could not get worse than that but it did in SW2014.
These are the most red texts in the UI.
Eye doctors tell you to adjust the fontsize to twice as big as the
minimum size you can read to save your eyes and prevent from
fatigue.
But what if the minimum size you can see gets 30% smaller
after an upgrade that is supposed to fix font problems?
At Solidworks they have wonderful ways to let us think that they care about usability
http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/8291_ENU_HTML.htm
But the truth is that they either don't read or understand or don't
get the resources to fix these basic User interface problems.
They told me the impact is not big enough to free resources for it.
I am used to buy software upgrades to support new hardware like
monitors that have an ever higher resolution. This was my fault
when upgrading Solidworks.
Showing a font correct independant on the Windows scaling is the most basic
functionality in any program, most free shareware programs don't have
problems with it but Solidworks does.
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I recently got SW 2014. I got a chance to work for a few days. I have to honestly say that I worked flawlessly in it a lot faster than 2011 inteface gave me no problems calculations a lot faster with some minor improvements. I was impressed. Maybe the SW the guys at my work had glitches. My version is working Flawlessly
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Using Solidworks since 2011, so have been on 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014.
Best version 2013.
Using SW everyday, you will see the differences, so far in 2014, it has been slow, unrealiable and frankly uglier.
Assemblies are now rotating slow (like in 2011)
Crashes in drawings (centre line issues)
Crashings in assembly (randomly, i suspect resource monitor which i have to end process on task manager)
Slow rebuild time (ON EVERYTHING)
Resource monitor as mentioned before being a constant pain.
Aside from that, i can use it effectively everyday.
Also i dont mind the fonts. that doesnt really strike as an issue tbh. as long as i can produce part/assemblies/drawings i can work around all the other issues, just wish i had 2013 as THAT was working flawlessly.
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I dont get any of that. I run SP1 no issues whatsoever. Assemblies rotate fine, no crashes or slow rebuild time. Im runing core I7 16gb ddr3. Its flawless
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after meeting, i have approval to get SP1, i look forward to see if this helps
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