Is anyone using a 4K monitor with Solidworks? In particular I'm interested in the use of a Seiki 39" TV.
might be a dumb question but won't the limitation be at your graphics card vs swx?
or are you asking whether 4k makes a difference?
All of the Quadro cards, including the Quadro 410 ($110), offer at least one displayport 1.2 connection that will run the 4K resolution of 3840 x 2160 (2160P or Ultra High Def) at 60 Hz. I "think" the Quadro HDMI ports will run the Seiki monitor at it's 30Hz resolution. The limitation on the 39" Seiki monitor is that it runs 4K at 30 Hz and it only has an HDMI 1.4 input. On the other hand it's getting good reviews and is $490. Rumor has it they're working on a new version that will have HDMI 2.0, and that will make it more PC friendly.
How far away do you plan to sit from that monitor? I have a couple 30" Dell UltraSharp monitors on my desk. Not sure I would want a 39" display on my desk. Probably could not push it far enough away from me to the back of my desk.
so why do you want a 4k display?
I have to agree with Anna. I have a 24" directly in front of me and a 22" beside it. Don't think I want any bigger. As a matter of fact, I've had the 24" for two years and I'm still not sure I like it. The next time I get new hardware I'm seriously considering going back to a 22".
I would really like to have a 4k 30" monitor if Solidworks would fix their bugs with
fonts and comply with the Microsoft Windows scaling.
I have many problems with 2560x1440 at 27". Using this monitor has
definitely improved the performance and it needs far less windows min/max
operations. I would never go back to anything less. I even like more.
You just need to place your monitor at a bigger distance from your eyes.
Be carefull with backligth flickering and big monitors as it causes a lot
of fatigue problems, see links below.
But here is the problem, Solidworks uses many different fonts and fonts
distances in the UI causing all kinds of visability and unnecessary mouseclick
problems. The problem is the most used fonts like in the modify dimension
or property managers get too small and you cannot increase this with
Windows scaling because of bugs in the user interface.
You need Windows scaling when using a high resolution monitor or tablet
and this is where Solidworks is full of bugs and these get worse every release.
It started in SW2010 and since 2013 it got much worse, 2014 is even worse
again. I already have had many contacts with my VAR and as it seems now
Solidworks tells them that they do not see the need of development concerning
these problems as these are no problems affecting the existance of a company.
This is what I have been told literally.
I think these problems are for a big part regressions and for another part
not complying to Microsoft standards. Most of the problems did
not exist in 2005-2010. The problem is that Solidworks does not support
modern high resolution monitors and refuses to fix the bugs that have been
found more than a year ago.
I run dual 23" HP monitors that rock with solidworks.
the monitor you're using has improved performance. what do you mean exactly?
you said you've talked to your reseller about this and they've passed this on to SolidWorks. do you have SPRS (bugs) or eSPRS (enhancements) for the issues? either way, it sounds like you've got some valid points about how it could help users, i'd suggest asking your reseller to escalate these for you and get a final answer from solidworks' development team on priority for the issues. what will come out of this will be an official statement of not supporting the monitors or a date on when it will be implemented. in either case, you'll be able to rest your case and find a workaround until the feature is added or fixed.
It improves performance as I don't need to minimize and
maximize all the time to see the parts when working on
large assemblies with a lot of open documents. Also, it
causes much less zooming and therefore saves time
and mouseclicks. I personally did not like 2 monitors as it
causes too much movement of your eyes and head.
We have 3 licenses and I find it takes me definitely less time
to do the same work in compare to another system that
uses a 1920x1080 monitor.
Yes I have several SPR's confirmed in SW2013 release.
However, my VAR has refused to investigate the new problems
that I have found in SW2014. I don't know if another VAR would
help as I am still not 100% sure if it is the VAR or Solidworks who
doesn't want to look into the problems any further.
I did sent most of the new SW2014 problems already at the
time of prerelease and till now I still did not get a response.
It is safe to say that nobody takes care of these problems as
they only get worse and we get no response lately.
That is one of the reasons I now post these problems in this forum,
maybe someone else has a VAR that takes these problems serious.
I did test other Cad programs like Solid Edge, they did not have any
font problems on high resolution monitors and we are seriously
considering switching. But that has more technical reasons.
I have been a SW user since 1995 and these problems and the
lack of support have caused us a lot of dissappointments in Solidworks.
From what I’ve read people are using them at normal distances since the resolution is much higher. In a way it’s not much different than using two 30” monitors.
They seem to be popular with software developers - the high res & size is helpful for reading text without having to continually scroll.
30" monitors are $1000 so an under $500 monitor is much more affordable. I use two 30" monitors at work and I'd like something similar at home. It's great to have SW open on one monitor and email/excel/word/etc on the other.
I recall working on a single 15" lcd not that many years ago and at the time I thought that was great. Larger monitors are progress. I look forward to a day when we can wear an interface or have it implanted; until then bigger is better for me.
After you have bought the monitor and have worked with it for a while you will have to come back and let us know how it is working for you. I would be curious to know what you think of the 4K monitor.
I have tested SW2014 SP1 and none of the problems have been fixed.
i'd recommend escalating the issues with your reseller or your territory technical manager if they are not responsive.
I first got to have SPR's before they can be escalated.
I asked my reseller to buy a 10" tablet 2560x1600 so they could find out
how bad the problems are in Solidworks 2013/2014.
A 20-24" monitor at 1920x1080 won't show the problems.
I think this is a very good offer:
Of course a 10" tablet is not for production use but according to Microsoft
fonts size in Windows application should scale correctly. Microsoft has logged into
my system and told me it is a Solidworks problem.
Even Solidworks says that scaling should work
But the truth is that scaling in Solidworks is full of problems like
corrupt dialog boxes and it gets worse every release. Scaling only
works for fonts which are already far too big, it brings nothing for
the fonts that are too small and these are the most used
(property manager and modify dimension).
your 2013 sprs should be fine for escalation if they are still set to open in the solidworks kb
These were the problem descriptions just after SW2013
was released but since SW2014 there are more font problems
on high resolution monitors. The existing problems also have
gotten worse in SW2014.
One of these font problems at the time of SW2013
has been escalated by my VAR.
I understand that Solidworks told my VAR that they do
not see the need of spending development resources on
these problems as these are no problems affecting the
existance of a company.
This is what I have been told literally.
It is true what they say, I can always use Solidworks 2010
or use an old low resolution monitor but that is not why
we buy upgrades. I would expect that the latest updates would
work well with the latest hardware, but it is the opposite.
there are criteria for escalation, but it doesn't hurt to revisit the issues if they are significantly affecting your day to day
You might have a point there, if 2014 is worse in that respect than 2013 it should really be termed a regression, these are typically treated at a higher priority by development. Might be worth making the point to your VAR although they are already at high one below the max of ciritical. Typically the number of "hits" per SPR also influence the speed of solution so it may be that just not many people have high res screens so aren't reporting the issue.
However this could be perhaps a little short sighted. I can see there being more requests for high res support for sure as apple set the stall out for high res displays even on laptops/ tablets. Dell also just bought out the 15.6inch Precision M3800 with the option for a 3,200 x 1,800 screen. So clearly we are heading for high resolution screens, although i'm not yet convinced of the need on such small screens they do look pretty!
Please let us know when you bought the 4K monitor and
please show some pictures at 150% scaling.
A 15.6" at 3200x1800 would be useless with
the font bugs in Solidworks at this moment.
While testing at 200% I just found even more
problems in SW2014 since SW2013.
Of course 200% would only be necessairy with a smaller
4 k monitor. If dot pitch gets twice as small
then Windows scaling should be 200% instead of 100% to
see the fonts at the same size. And dot pitch will get twice
as small very soon !!
Find the pictures of 200% windows scaling and the
new problems. These are all with the same settings
In a RMB in the tree area the font is very small and the
vertical font distance is huge.
In a RMB in the graphics area it is completely different
but the font is huge.
It's a complete mess since SW2014.
What is necessairy is all fonts the same size and the
same font distance in every part of the UI just like Solid Edge.
This is not an enhancerequest but a bug fix request as it
a serious problem with modern high resolution monitors
and it is almost all regression since 2010/2013.
Solid edge has one toggle for small and large UI setting
and with that setting all font sizes are the same everywhere
and this is what you would expect. You can download a free 45
day trial to find out, I only have 5 days left. Modelling in Solid
Edge is extremely flexible but that is another thing.
Perhaps you might start a new thread with the title "font bugs in Solidworks" or similar. It's helpful to stay on topic.
Did you buy the Seiki TV monitor?
I hope someone at Solidworks can test this monitor to find out how
big the problems are with high resolution monitors in Solidworks.
24" 4k monitors are now cheaper than 24" high resolution monitors 10 years ago.
No I haven't bought one. I'm waiting to see if Seiki starts selling a 4K with a standard connector that runs at 60Hz. All of the engineers at my company use dual 30" monitors at 2560 x 1600 each, and that has worked out really well. Everyone loves it. Most of us sit at about 24" away from the monitors. I have a single 30" at home and I'd like to add a 2nd large monitor. I could get a 24", but when I saw the Seiki for $480 I got interested in that. I won't risk getting one until I hear a review by a couple of SW users.
I am running my Solidworks on a Surface Book i7, Phillips 4K (60Hz).
What size is that display?
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